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== Limits of the game-code ==
 
== Limits of the game-code ==
The coding restricts Oolite to [[The Eight|eight two-dimensional galaxies]] with 256 systems in each.
 
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Whilst Oolite was originally just a rewrite of Classic Elite for the AppleMac, our first lead developer, [[User:Aegidian]], starting opening out parts of the code for modifying. This process has continued since 2003 with more and more of the game being changeable. This area is one of those which are still relatively restricted by the game code.
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=== Limits: galactic ===
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The coding currently restricts Oolite to [[The Eight|eight two-dimensional galaxies]] with 256 systems in each.
   
 
There are several ways in which you can get around this which include:
 
There are several ways in which you can get around this which include:
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== Double star systems ==
 
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=== Limits: intra-galactic ===
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The vanilla game code provides for just one star with one close-by planet. No moons. No rings. No solar flares. This is, as you probably realise, easily alterable by the OXPs (see [[Guide to Ambience OXPs]] for more detail). Thus, OXP's have created rings, solar flares, a pulsar, ''etc''. They have changed the star types, distances, the look of the nebulae, ''etc''.
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At the time of writing (2021) Oolite lacks the following:
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:No black holes.
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:No binary systems.
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:No quasars.
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==== Double star systems ====
 
While the game code does not allow for true binary systems, there are some so-called "double star systems" (see links below):
 
While the game code does not allow for true binary systems, there are some so-called "double star systems" (see links below):
 
:Galaxy 3: Quzaarar & Riusbequ
 
:Galaxy 3: Quzaarar & Riusbequ
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The 7 lightyear jump limit limits which systems can be reached - for example, [[The Great Rift]] in Galaxy 7. There, some 30 systems are stranded in an "island" more than 7ly from the rest of the systems. But there are also effects on local geography too. As well as islands, peninsulae are created. The effects of this can clearly be seen if one tampers with this limit - see [[User:Redspear|Redspear]]'s [[Hyperdrives]] OXP.
 
The 7 lightyear jump limit limits which systems can be reached - for example, [[The Great Rift]] in Galaxy 7. There, some 30 systems are stranded in an "island" more than 7ly from the rest of the systems. But there are also effects on local geography too. As well as islands, peninsulae are created. The effects of this can clearly be seen if one tampers with this limit - see [[User:Redspear|Redspear]]'s [[Hyperdrives]] OXP.
 
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''[[User:Cim|Cim]], Oolites 3rd Lead Developer on the importance of Geography'':<br>
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=== [[User:Cim|Cim]], Oolites 3rd Lead Developer on the importance of Geography ===
"Takes off dev hat, puts on player/OXP writer hat"<br>
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''Takes off dev hat, puts on player/OXP writer hat''<br>
 
Well, with 2048 systems in the original 8, it's not as if the average player - or even a committed member of the Explorer's Club - is going to visit them all in a hurry. So an extra 2048 which are more of the same (but with fewer content or mission OXPs available) doesn't immediately sound appealing. What they need is interesting stories that couldn't be told in the original 8.
 
Well, with 2048 systems in the original 8, it's not as if the average player - or even a committed member of the Explorer's Club - is going to visit them all in a hurry. So an extra 2048 which are more of the same (but with fewer content or mission OXPs available) doesn't immediately sound appealing. What they need is interesting stories that couldn't be told in the original 8.
   
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==== Geography makes the difference ====
 
There really isn't a lot of difference in direct gameplay terms between [[Sector1/Ensoreus]] (Gal 1, Rich Ind Corporate, TL 12) and [[Sector5/Edxebere]] (Gal 5, Rich Ind Corporate, TL 12). But while Ensoreus is the technological and industrial anchor of a small cluster of mostly-agricultural stars, Edxebere is a gateway system - along with its sister world of Gediesqu - between the dense mostly-stable cluster of Galcentre G5, and the dangerous and bottleneck-filled trail that leads from the Siege Worlds down to the trader's graveyard of Bizaar.
 
There really isn't a lot of difference in direct gameplay terms between [[Sector1/Ensoreus]] (Gal 1, Rich Ind Corporate, TL 12) and [[Sector5/Edxebere]] (Gal 5, Rich Ind Corporate, TL 12). But while Ensoreus is the technological and industrial anchor of a small cluster of mostly-agricultural stars, Edxebere is a gateway system - along with its sister world of Gediesqu - between the dense mostly-stable cluster of Galcentre G5, and the dangerous and bottleneck-filled trail that leads from the Siege Worlds down to the trader's graveyard of Bizaar.
   
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Edxebere - with Inbior, Bisoaton, and a range of other high tech worlds just two jumps to its north - is mainly a place people go through on their way to somewhere more interesting, or for emergency repairs after a nasty experience in Anisat when traversing the trail eastward.
 
Edxebere - with Inbior, Bisoaton, and a range of other high tech worlds just two jumps to its north - is mainly a place people go through on their way to somewhere more interesting, or for emergency repairs after a nasty experience in Anisat when traversing the trail eastward.
   
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==== Geography creates the stories ====
 
The stories that get told about each place are very different, despite their apparent similarity. There are three types of stories to tell ... not without overlap, of course:<br>
 
The stories that get told about each place are very different, despite their apparent similarity. There are three types of stories to tell ... not without overlap, of course:<br>
 
1) The unfolding personal narrative as you play the game<br>
 
1) The unfolding personal narrative as you play the game<br>
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Of course, sometimes you want to start with the story, and then find a place in the charts to set it. The charts are very diverse already, so there's usually space for it. So - a 9th chart is only useful in my opinion if it lets a story be told that someone wants to tell but can't in the original 8 because there's nowhere it makes sense to set it. Find that story - and a chart that allows it - and there's your justification.
 
Of course, sometimes you want to start with the story, and then find a place in the charts to set it. The charts are very diverse already, so there's usually space for it. So - a 9th chart is only useful in my opinion if it lets a story be told that someone wants to tell but can't in the original 8 because there's nowhere it makes sense to set it. Find that story - and a chart that allows it - and there's your justification.
   
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==== The 7LY jump limit ====
 
Incidentally, this is why the 7LY jump limit is for me the key thing that makes Oolite what it is. With the jump limit increased by a mere 0.2LY, for instance, a jump from Bexe to Zaenza becomes possible, and the Steel Halo in Gal 5 goes from being an extremely interesting branch with one story already set there - and at least one other very obvious story no-one's yet published - to being a relatively dull cluster of industrial and semi-industrial worlds.
 
Incidentally, this is why the 7LY jump limit is for me the key thing that makes Oolite what it is. With the jump limit increased by a mere 0.2LY, for instance, a jump from Bexe to Zaenza becomes possible, and the Steel Halo in Gal 5 goes from being an extremely interesting branch with one story already set there - and at least one other very obvious story no-one's yet published - to being a relatively dull cluster of industrial and semi-industrial worlds.
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Editor's note: ''The French '''Annalistes''' school was convinced that geography created history, and thus the history of an island would be different from that of a mountainous peninsula, and again, from that of a desert country.''
   
 
== In-game geographical differences ==
 
== In-game geographical differences ==
 
=== Galactic Differences ===
 
=== Galactic Differences ===
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-000.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 1]] [[Academies/Galaxy 1|Academies of Galaxy 1]]
 
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{{QuoteText|Text=I find the eight galaxies have a very different feel to them.
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-001.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 2]] [[Academies/Galaxy 2|Academies of Galaxy 2]]
 
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:1 - mostly well connected, but you've got that large bit at 5 o'clock which is almost a separate bit.
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-002.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 3]] [[Academies/Galaxy 3|Academies of Galaxy 3]]
 
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:2 - lots of bottlenecks. Most of the Eight's double bottlenecks.
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-003.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 4]] [[Academies/Galaxy 4|Academies of Galaxy 4]]
 
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:3 - similar to 1 in terms of general connectivity, but with that odd disconnection across a lot of the north edge.
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-004.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 5]] [[Academies/Galaxy 5|Academies of Galaxy 5]]
 
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:4 - odd government types: only four of the eight used, which gives it a lot of Anarchy bottlenecks, especially if travelling east/west.
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-005.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 6]] [[Academies/Galaxy 6|Academies of Galaxy 6]]
 
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:5 - feels very core+frontier, in a way, with oddities like the Steel Halo or Tetiri Conclave, or the thin route from S to SE
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-006.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 7]] [[Academies/Galaxy 7|Academies of Galaxy 7]]
 
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:6 - this one just makes me uneasy. I don't know why.
# [[Image:StarChart-Academy-007.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 8]] [[Academies/Galaxy 8|Academies of Galaxy 8]]
 
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:7 - the Great Rift, but even without that divided into two halves with narrow bottleneck routes between them
Different political systems predominate in different galaxies. The most unique is Galaxy 4: no feudal or multi-government states at all!
 
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:8 - Oresrati, of course, but also very well connected in terms of routes to reach various points.|Source=([http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=212702#p212702 Cim])}}
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 1]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-000.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 1]] [[Academies/Galaxy 1|Academies of Galaxy 1]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 2]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-001.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 2]] [[Academies/Galaxy 2|Academies of Galaxy 2]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 3]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-002.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 3]] [[Academies/Galaxy 3|Academies of Galaxy 3]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 4]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-003.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 4]] [[Academies/Galaxy 4|Academies of Galaxy 4]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 5]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-004.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 5]] [[Academies/Galaxy 5|Academies of Galaxy 5]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 6]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-005.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 6]] [[Academies/Galaxy 6|Academies of Galaxy 6]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 7]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-006.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 7]] [[Academies/Galaxy 7|Academies of Galaxy 7]]
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# [[Oolite planet list/Galaxy 8]] [[Image:StarChart-Academy-007.png|50px|Academy chart of galaxy 8]] [[Academies/Galaxy 8|Academies of Galaxy 8]]
   
 
=== Regional differences ===
 
=== Regional differences ===
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*[[Distance (Oolite)]]
 
*[[Distance (Oolite)]]
 
*[[Light Mach]]
 
*[[Light Mach]]
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=== BBB threads ===
 
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20974 Cool OXPs for celestial objects] (2021)
 
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20974 Cool OXPs for celestial objects] (2021)
 
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5387 Terraforming] (2008)
 
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5387 Terraforming] (2008)

Revision as of 10:30, 13 August 2021

SpacewayL1.jpg

Limits of the game-code

Whilst Oolite was originally just a rewrite of Classic Elite for the AppleMac, our first lead developer, User:Aegidian, starting opening out parts of the code for modifying. This process has continued since 2003 with more and more of the game being changeable. This area is one of those which are still relatively restricted by the game code.

Limits: galactic

The coding currently restricts Oolite to eight two-dimensional galaxies with 256 systems in each.

There are several ways in which you can get around this which include:

  • See cim's Song of the Labyrinth for oxp's which create a new discovery game set in one of two new galaxies.
  • See Galaxy Seeds for detail on how to change the galaxies yourself!
  • See More/larger galaxies (2014) for tips on increasing the sizes of your galaxies as well as the number


Limits: intra-galactic

The vanilla game code provides for just one star with one close-by planet. No moons. No rings. No solar flares. This is, as you probably realise, easily alterable by the OXPs (see Guide to Ambience OXPs for more detail). Thus, OXP's have created rings, solar flares, a pulsar, etc. They have changed the star types, distances, the look of the nebulae, etc.

At the time of writing (2021) Oolite lacks the following:

No black holes.
No binary systems.
No quasars.


Double star systems

While the game code does not allow for true binary systems, there are some so-called "double star systems" (see links below):

Galaxy 3: Quzaarar & Riusbequ
Galaxy 4: Riusbequ & Quzaarar
Galaxy 5: Tezabi & Divees
Galaxy 5: Zaenza & Lazaso
Galaxy 8: Esusale & Cecees
Dr Beeb's map (Galaxy 1): notice the complex structure of the bottom right quarter

Effects of 7ly hyperdrive limit

The 7 lightyear jump limit limits which systems can be reached - for example, The Great Rift in Galaxy 7. There, some 30 systems are stranded in an "island" more than 7ly from the rest of the systems. But there are also effects on local geography too. As well as islands, peninsulae are created. The effects of this can clearly be seen if one tampers with this limit - see Redspear's Hyperdrives OXP.

Cim, Oolites 3rd Lead Developer on the importance of Geography

Takes off dev hat, puts on player/OXP writer hat
Well, with 2048 systems in the original 8, it's not as if the average player - or even a committed member of the Explorer's Club - is going to visit them all in a hurry. So an extra 2048 which are more of the same (but with fewer content or mission OXPs available) doesn't immediately sound appealing. What they need is interesting stories that couldn't be told in the original 8.

Geography makes the difference

There really isn't a lot of difference in direct gameplay terms between Sector1/Ensoreus (Gal 1, Rich Ind Corporate, TL 12) and Sector5/Edxebere (Gal 5, Rich Ind Corporate, TL 12). But while Ensoreus is the technological and industrial anchor of a small cluster of mostly-agricultural stars, Edxebere is a gateway system - along with its sister world of Gediesqu - between the dense mostly-stable cluster of Galcentre G5, and the dangerous and bottleneck-filled trail that leads from the Siege Worlds down to the trader's graveyard of Bizaar.

Ensoreus is a local trading hub of some importance, well positioned to fend off competition from Zaonce and Tionisla on the edges of its cluster - and it exploits this to keep the nearby Agricultural worlds mostly pretty poor and dependent on it.

Edxebere - with Inbior, Bisoaton, and a range of other high tech worlds just two jumps to its north - is mainly a place people go through on their way to somewhere more interesting, or for emergency repairs after a nasty experience in Anisat when traversing the trail eastward.

Geography creates the stories

The stories that get told about each place are very different, despite their apparent similarity. There are three types of stories to tell ... not without overlap, of course:
1) The unfolding personal narrative as you play the game
2) Stories told through the medium of fiction
3) Stories told through a mission OXP.

There are entire regions of the Eight - in some cases getting on for entire galaxies - which don't yet have their stories told to a wide audience (indeed, once you get out of Chart 1, the stories get much sparser). If you start with the topology, and work out of the story, there are hundreds of interesting OXPs and/or novellas yet to be written, just from the existing eight charts.

Of course, sometimes you want to start with the story, and then find a place in the charts to set it. The charts are very diverse already, so there's usually space for it. So - a 9th chart is only useful in my opinion if it lets a story be told that someone wants to tell but can't in the original 8 because there's nowhere it makes sense to set it. Find that story - and a chart that allows it - and there's your justification.

The 7LY jump limit

Incidentally, this is why the 7LY jump limit is for me the key thing that makes Oolite what it is. With the jump limit increased by a mere 0.2LY, for instance, a jump from Bexe to Zaenza becomes possible, and the Steel Halo in Gal 5 goes from being an extremely interesting branch with one story already set there - and at least one other very obvious story no-one's yet published - to being a relatively dull cluster of industrial and semi-industrial worlds.

Editor's note: The French Annalistes school was convinced that geography created history, and thus the history of an island would be different from that of a mountainous peninsula, and again, from that of a desert country.

In-game geographical differences

Galactic Differences

I find the eight galaxies have a very different feel to them.
1 - mostly well connected, but you've got that large bit at 5 o'clock which is almost a separate bit.
2 - lots of bottlenecks. Most of the Eight's double bottlenecks.
3 - similar to 1 in terms of general connectivity, but with that odd disconnection across a lot of the north edge.
4 - odd government types: only four of the eight used, which gives it a lot of Anarchy bottlenecks, especially if travelling east/west.
5 - feels very core+frontier, in a way, with oddities like the Steel Halo or Tetiri Conclave, or the thin route from S to SE
6 - this one just makes me uneasy. I don't know why.
7 - the Great Rift, but even without that divided into two halves with narrow bottleneck routes between them
8 - Oresrati, of course, but also very well connected in terms of routes to reach various points.
(Cim)
  1. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 1 Academy chart of galaxy 1 Academies of Galaxy 1
  2. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 2 Academy chart of galaxy 2 Academies of Galaxy 2
  3. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 3 Academy chart of galaxy 3 Academies of Galaxy 3
  4. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 4 Academy chart of galaxy 4 Academies of Galaxy 4
  5. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 5 Academy chart of galaxy 5 Academies of Galaxy 5
  6. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 6 Academy chart of galaxy 6 Academies of Galaxy 6
  7. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 7 Academy chart of galaxy 7 Academies of Galaxy 7
  8. Oolite planet list/Galaxy 8 Academy chart of galaxy 8 Academies of Galaxy 8

Regional differences

Regions are put on the in-game maps by Explorers' Club OXP & by GalCop Galactic Registry. There are several varieties of these regions.

  • Iron Stars cluster in Galaxy 1 (Economic) - the markets are very similar (more difficult to make a profit until you leave the region!)
  • Pulsar Worlds (supposedly visual - one should be able to see the pulsar!)
  • Devil's Triangle (political) - pirate infested - and the game code spills this out to the general locale in Oolite v.1.80 and later

OXP effects

  • Darkside Moonshine Distillery creates an regional increase in price of the whisky as distance from the distilleries in the Tortuga expanse increases
  • New Cargoes creates a market in over 100 specific versions of regular commodities - eg Vacuum Karate training videos (luxury) or Earthquake Predictors (computers). These are only produced by a handful of systems - and will only sell at full price to another handful... You need to know your geography for this one!
  • Diplomancy can create no-go areas where one cannot buy visas for travel to systems (ie visiting the Communists in Sector1/Onlema & Sector1/Soorbi when they are at war with their neighbours). You can visit the systems, but not dock at the official system's stations!
  • Smugglers creates difficulties in trade routes when commodities suddenly become illegal for a particular system!
  • Weapon Laws creates difficulties in buying combat equipment - not only do you need the right TL, but you need the right political system too!



Trade Routes

Put on the map by GNN's news broadcasts, & by GalCop Galactic Registry. It is uncertain if there is any real logic behind these routes. CaptSolo has quite a different network of trade routes on his maps.

In-game differences made by Fuel Station OXP: placing fuel stations in the more stable systems on SpaceWay L1 in galaxy 1
Liners used to part of a suite of Povray Planets OXPs and ran the liners along the trade routes. The suite included planet textures, planet descriptions (now the Famous Planets OXP), liners & specific music for various systems!

Links

BBB threads

OXPs