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As the years have gone by, there have been those pushing for a more realistic approach (originally, some who came to Oolite through Frontier), and other pushing for a more game-focused approach (perhaps those who preferred Classic Elite - Frontier had playability problems). The arguments on each side are good, and the open nature of Oolite means that there are a plethora of OXPs which modify the game in one's desired direction. |
As the years have gone by, there have been those pushing for a more realistic approach (originally, some who came to Oolite through Frontier), and other pushing for a more game-focused approach (perhaps those who preferred Classic Elite - Frontier had playability problems). The arguments on each side are good, and the open nature of Oolite means that there are a plethora of OXPs which modify the game in one's desired direction. |
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== Realistic Solutions == |
== Realistic Solutions == |
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=== Astronomy/Physics === |
=== Astronomy/Physics === |
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− | *[[Strangers World]] attempts to sort out a number of these: to whit, some of the issues of scale/distance, astronomy, fuel-less travel ''etc''. |
+ | *[[Strangers World]] attempts to sort out a large number of these: to whit, some of the issues of scale/distance, astronomy, fuel-less travel ''etc''. |
*[[Ship Configuration OXP]] implements the impact of equipment volume, weight, heat production and breakability. |
*[[Ship Configuration OXP]] implements the impact of equipment volume, weight, heat production and breakability. |
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*The [[Rescaling experiment]] attempts to sort out some of the [[Distance (Oolite)|distance/size]] issues. |
*The [[Rescaling experiment]] attempts to sort out some of the [[Distance (Oolite)|distance/size]] issues. |
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*[[Guide to Ambience OXPs]] details a number of OXPs addressing issues of astronomy. |
*[[Guide to Ambience OXPs]] details a number of OXPs addressing issues of astronomy. |
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+ | *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=255314#p255314 Astrobe's Inertia.oxp] (2017) |
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=== Economics === |
=== Economics === |
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*See [[Economics]] for a number of attempts to sort out issues with trade and markets. |
*See [[Economics]] for a number of attempts to sort out issues with trade and markets. |
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*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12439 Penalize Death.oxp] Making death hurt (2012). By Spara. |
*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12439 Penalize Death.oxp] Making death hurt (2012). By Spara. |
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== Discussions == |
== Discussions == |
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+ | *[[Newtonian modelling]] |
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+ | *[[Cheating]] |
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*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21096 Oolite essay: game lore, features and mechanics] Stranger's Essay for Roolite (the Russian Oolite web-site) |
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21096 Oolite essay: game lore, features and mechanics] Stranger's Essay for Roolite (the Russian Oolite web-site) |
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*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18664 Is it possible to add in Gravity/Inertia?] (2017) ...with [[User:Astrobe|Astrobe]]'s .oxp link |
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18664 Is it possible to add in Gravity/Inertia?] (2017) ...with [[User:Astrobe|Astrobe]]'s .oxp link |
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*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10238 GAME CHANGER - A little overlooked law of aerospace science.] (2011) The dynamics of travel in space. Friction, cosmic ray secondary muons, Bermuda Triangle, absolute zero, achilles' heels in ship designs, [[Ubership]]s... |
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10238 GAME CHANGER - A little overlooked law of aerospace science.] (2011) The dynamics of travel in space. Friction, cosmic ray secondary muons, Bermuda Triangle, absolute zero, achilles' heels in ship designs, [[Ubership]]s... |
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*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11476 Artificial Gravity and Space Stations] (2012) |
*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11476 Artificial Gravity and Space Stations] (2012) |
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+ | *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=57695#p57695 Selezen's take on physics] - leading on to Captain Hesperus on the courses at Lave Academy (2008) |
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*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8581 A moment of existential angst] (2010) |
*[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8581 A moment of existential angst] (2010) |
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+ | *[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17366 Commodity sub-types] (2015+): note [[User:Redspear|Redspear]]'s powerful defence of the Oolite trade model. |
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[[Category:Factual]] [[Category:Concepts]] |
[[Category:Factual]] [[Category:Concepts]] |
Latest revision as of 16:06, 4 January 2022
Oolite is modelled on Classic Elite - a very simplistic but very playable game published in 1984. Realism is often seen as conflicting with playability.
Contents
Issues with Physics/Science/Economics in Oolite
Classic Elite was written for early computers. David Braben's Frontier series (written a decade later for more powerful computers) tried to import more real-world physics and astronomy into gaming. But Oolite, being a copy of Classic Elite, suffered from the simplicity inherent in the early game. Thus the astronomy, the physics and the economics are all unreal simplifications which, however, combine to make a much more playable game.
As the years have gone by, there have been those pushing for a more realistic approach (originally, some who came to Oolite through Frontier), and other pushing for a more game-focused approach (perhaps those who preferred Classic Elite - Frontier had playability problems). The arguments on each side are good, and the open nature of Oolite means that there are a plethora of OXPs which modify the game in one's desired direction.
Realistic Solutions
Astronomy/Physics
- Strangers World attempts to sort out a large number of these: to whit, some of the issues of scale/distance, astronomy, fuel-less travel etc.
- Ship Configuration OXP implements the impact of equipment volume, weight, heat production and breakability.
- The Rescaling experiment attempts to sort out some of the distance/size issues.
- Guide to Ambience OXPs details a number of OXPs addressing issues of astronomy.
- Astrobe's Inertia.oxp (2017)
Economics
- See Economics for a number of attempts to sort out issues with trade and markets.
Playing the game
- Penalize Death.oxp Making death hurt (2012). By Spara.
Discussions
Here on the wiki
On the BB
- Oolite essay: game lore, features and mechanics Stranger's Essay for Roolite (the Russian Oolite web-site)
- Is it possible to add in Gravity/Inertia? (2017) ...with Astrobe's .oxp link
- GAME CHANGER - A little overlooked law of aerospace science. (2011) The dynamics of travel in space. Friction, cosmic ray secondary muons, Bermuda Triangle, absolute zero, achilles' heels in ship designs, Uberships...
- Artificial Gravity and Space Stations (2012)
- Selezen's take on physics - leading on to Captain Hesperus on the courses at Lave Academy (2008)
- Commodity sub-types (2015+): note Redspear's powerful defence of the Oolite trade model.