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 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17671 "Not in the manual" - setting and canon in the eight charts]: 2015 Discussion led by the 3rd Lead Developer, [[User:Cim|Cim]]
 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16525 2014 Discussion] of "is there a canon"?
 *[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11660 What is regarded as canonical in Oolite history?]: 2012 Discussion
 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8913 The Whole Frontier Canon Mess]: 2010 Discussion: some pithy points

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 *But [[User:Cody|Cody]] & [[User:Smivs|Smivs]], for example, do not see the Dark Wheel as canonical ("''there are too many things that Holdstock got wrong''" - see [[The Dark Wheel]] controversy section).
-:The purist school is thus split between '''ultra-minimalist purists''' who pretty much reject everything apart from the games themselves (''ie'', the code!) and the '''moderate purists''' who accept the [[The Space Traders Flight Training Manual|Manual]] and [[The Dark Wheel]] ''etc''.
+:The purist school is thus split between '''ultra-minimalist purists''' who pretty much reject everything apart from the games themselves (''ie'', the code!) and the '''moderate purists''' who accept the [[The Space Traders Flight Training Manual|Manual]] and [[The Dark Wheel]] ''etc''. See for example, [[User:Disembodied|Disembodied]]'s view [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=49623#p49623 here] (2008).
 :[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20806 User2357] on the other hand sees - not only the Dark Wheel & Imprint but - [[Dylan Smith]]'s [http://alioth.net/Fiction/oolitestory.pdf. The Virtuous Misfortune] as an essential part of the core lore (DS is this wikipedia's host).

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 Ooniverse, it totally changes the feel of the place!
-Others reacted against this. On the one hand, Reese249er wrote [[249th Naval Reserve Wing OXP]] which uses civilian patrols to supplement an invisible navy off fighting Thargoids elsewhere. On the other hand, others created [[HIMSN]] instead. Much more self effacing (off fighting the Thargoids in InterGalactic Space, not much encountered otherwise), and a newer oxp, using newer graphics techniques, ''etc''.
+Others reacted against this. On the one hand, Reese249er wrote [[249th Naval Reserve Wing OXP]] which uses civilian patrols to supplement an invisible navy off fighting Thargoids elsewhere. On the other hand, others who wanted an actual navy, created [[Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy]] instead. Much more self effacing (off fighting the Thargoids in InterGalactic Space, not much encountered otherwise), and a more modern oxz, using newer graphics techniques, ''etc''.
 These three probably all work together with some minor tweaking. But the lores and underlying philosophies are quite different - and GN clashes with HIMSN & 249th Naval Reserve Wing in this respect.

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	== So What? ==		== So What? ==
		+	At time of writing (end 2021), Oolite probably offers something like 1,200 oxz's/oxp's!
		+
		+	Many of these happily co-exist with each other from a lore-based perspective. But not all.
		+
		+	=== Example: Space Navies ===
		+	Take the Navies. The game code for Elite features no navy at all, just a couple of references to it in the missions. There are under a dozen references in the [[The Space Traders Flight Training Manual]]:
		+	*The Navy Training Manual recommends the following approach and dock sequence;
		+	*Though most of the Thargoid Space Fleet is currently engaged by the Galactic Navy in InterGalactic Space, a few of the smaller battle ships make occasional destructor-raids into human space. ...
		+	:Additionally, most Thargoid battle ships carry several small, remote-controlled "thargons", killer-craft each equipped with a single, but highly advanced, pulse-laser. The Galactic Navy are developing their own deep-space RemCraft, and pay a large bounty for any thargon craft that are brought to them.
		+	*ASP MK II
		+	:Galactic Navy vessel designed and manufactured in government workshops, incorporating secret self-destruct devices which are primed to activate when the astrogation controls are used by unfamiliar hands. Integument has chameleon properties enabling the ship to assume effective camouflage in any type of environment. Intended for reconnaissance and the transport of high-ranking military personnel from combat it is very fast and maneuverable.
		+	''etc''
		+
		+	The original novels have a little more.
		+
		+	So, at various stages, people have started writing Navy oxp's for Oolite. None of these are currently on the in-game Expansions Manager (Galactic Navy lacks a license, HIMSN was banjaxed by E:D's emergence in 2014 and still needs a couple of finishing touches).
		+
		+	Matt634 & Nemoricus wanted to create a strong powerful Navy. They did. The [[Galactic Navy]] has a strong powerful presence in the eight galaxies with lots of SecCom Navy bases, patrols, battleships, ''etc'' ''etc''. If you add it to your
		+	Ooniverse, it totally changes the feel of the place!
		+
		+	Others reacted against this. On the one hand, Reese249er wrote [[249th Naval Reserve Wing OXP]] which uses civilian patrols to supplement an invisible navy off fighting Thargoids elsewhere. On the other hand, others created [[HIMSN]] instead. Much more self effacing (off fighting the Thargoids in InterGalactic Space, not much encountered otherwise), and a newer oxp, using newer graphics techniques, ''etc''.
		+
		+	These three probably all work together with some minor tweaking. But the lores and underlying philosophies are quite different - and GN clashes with HIMSN & 249th Naval Reserve Wing in this respect.
		+
		+	=== Conclusion ===
	We are all different. Some of us want Lore and explanation - we find it gives colour to our game. Others of us just want to get on with playing and not get bogged down in insignificant details. In Oolite, ''you'' decide what goes into your Ooniverse - and ''you'' decide how you wish to make sense of it. Enjoy!		We are all different. Some of us want Lore and explanation - we find it gives colour to our game. Others of us just want to get on with playing and not get bogged down in insignificant details. In Oolite, ''you'' decide what goes into your Ooniverse - and ''you'' decide how you wish to make sense of it. Enjoy!

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 === Lore-laden OXPs ===
 ''OXPs bringing lore from the literature into the game. They include''
 *Lave: [[Lave OXP]] (old) has learner drivers, the Lave moon etc. [[Lave Academy]] has the academy station with classes.
 *Tionisla: [[Tionisla Orbital Graveyard]] & [[Tionisla Chronicle Array]]

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	*[[Missionaries OXP]] - ever been harangued by a Happy Eye preacher or a Witchspace Lobster missionary? Boy, do ''you'' have a treat in store!		*[[Missionaries OXP]] - ever been harangued by a Happy Eye preacher or a Witchspace Lobster missionary? Boy, do ''you'' have a treat in store!

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 ::Lave: the old [[Lave OXP]] and the newer [[Lave Academy OXP]].
 ::Tionisla: The [[Tionisla Orbital Graveyard]] collection.
-::[[New Cargoes]] takes the planet descriptions from Elite and the associated literature and generates trade items from them (Zero-G cricket bats, Shanaskilk fur, thumpberry juice & noseoid leather).
+::[[New Cargoes]] looks at the planet descriptions from Elite & the associated literature and generates trade items from them (Zero-G cricket bats, Shanaskilk fur, thumpberry juice & noseoid leather).
 ::There is also the [[Deep Space Dredger]] and the [[Generation Ships OXP]].
 :Frontier/FFE/E:D lore-based OXPs: various Empire elements have been added as OXPs - Selezen created [[Imperial Courier (Oolite)|Imperial Courier]] & [[Eagle Mk II]] ships for Oolite, and the mix has been further added to.

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 ::From ClymAngus/Wyvern's novellae: [[Kirin]], [[Kirin Sport]], [[Caduceus]], [[Dragon]], [[MilSpec HUD OXP]], [[Automatic Chaff System]] (now in [[Missiles and Bombs]]), [[Missile Spoof]] & [[Military Missile]].
 ::From Cody's novellae: [[Coyote's Run]] & [[Green Gecko]]
-::From the people of the time: [[Personalities OXP]] bump into Cody, Rebecca Weston, Wyvern, Captain Hesperus ''etc'' (sadly broken).
+::[[Personalities OXP]] bump into Cody, Selezen, Wyvern, Disembodied, Captain Hesperus, PA Groove ''etc'' in-flight (sadly broken).
 :*But the very nature of OXPs is that they are optional. You decide what to include, and what to exclude, and what to tweak/experiment with. They cannot be "core lore" by their very nature.