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	=== Keyboards ===		=== Keyboards ===
		+	*[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5020 Am I an idiot to play w/out a joystick?] (2008)
	*See [[Keyboard Issues]]		*See [[Keyboard Issues]]

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 === Screens/Monitors ===
 *[http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18903 Changing the Field of View] (2017) - ''the current range is from 30 degrees to 80 degrees''.
 === Multiple Screens ===
 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13864 Multiple screens discussion] (2013)
 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20899 External dashboards] (2021)
 === Headtracking (Free-View) ===

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 === Useful Links ===
-*For mapping axes & buttons see [[Joysticks: Guide to Setting Up]]
+*For mapping axes & buttons see [[Joysticks: Guide to Setting Up]] which contains a number of mapping suggestions by different players
 *For setting up an axis profile - ''to correct a drunken bias - or to achieve more precision in flight'' - see [[Dizzy's guide to Setting up Joystick Axis Profiles in Oolite 1.80|Dizzy's guide to Setting up Joystick Axis Profiles]]
 *For sticky sticks see [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17068 <solved> Joystick trouble]
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 [[File:Joystick Sensitivity Indicator.png|400px|thumb|right|'''Joystick Precision Indicator''' <br>
 Dot in circle between red scanner & green roll/pitch sensors]]
 == Joystick Precision (sensitivity) Indicator ==

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 == Joystick throttle jitter handling ==
 *[[BGS]] (Background Set) enables Joystick throttle jitter handling.
-:If you have the [[Library]].oxp running, you can access this through the F4 page's "Config for AddOns" heading, then "list settings", and then select "BGS".
+:If you are docked, have the [[Library]].oxp loaded, and are running BGS 2.5.1, you can access this through the F4 ship-station interface page's '''Config for AddOns''' heading.
 <br><br>

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-| align="center" width="200" height="200"|[[File:PS3 Controller.jpeg|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Sony''' PS3 Game Controller]]
+[[File:Nostromo Speedpad.jpeg|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Belkin''''s Nostromo Speedpad]]
-| align="center" width="200" height="200"|[[File:Nostromo Speedpad.jpeg|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Belkin''''s Nostromo Speedpad]]
+[[File:TFlight HOTAS 4.png|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Thrustmaster''' TFlight Hotas 4: Throttle & joystick detachable-ish]]
-| align="center" width="200" height="200"|[[File:TFlight HOTAS 4.png|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Thrustmaster''' TFlight Hotas 4: Throttle & joystick detachable-ish]]
+[[File:VKB Gunfighter Mk.III joystick.png|200px|thumb|<br>|'''VKB''' Gunfighter Mk.III joystick]]
-| align="center" width="200" height="200"|[[File:VKB Gunfighter Mk.III joystick.png|200px|thumb|<br>|'''VKB''' Gunfighter Mk.III joystick]]
+[[File:Virpil Mongoost Throttle.png|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Virpil''' Mongoost Throttle: metal]]
 == The Options ==
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 === AppleMac ===
-The AppleMac is more of a nightmare. The simpler joysticks and the various CH offerings are supposedly fully compatible (although the CH programming software is not). For example, with the simpler Thrustmaster combined HOTAS models (TFlight 1/3/4/X) one will find that the yaw controls and the throttle do not function with the AppleMac. The CH equipment no longer seems to work with the newest AppleMacs -  which may be due to issues with crummy converters connecting USB connectors to the newer Thunderbolt ports.
+The AppleMac is more of a nightmare. The simpler joysticks and the various CH offerings are supposedly fully compatible (although the CH programming software is not). For example, with the simpler Thrustmaster combined HOTAS models (TFlight 1/3/4/X) one will find that the yaw controls and the throttle do not function with the AppleMac. The CH equipment no longer seems to work properly with the newest AppleMacs - the first few buttons on both joystick and throttle are not longer identified as separate. There are also issues with crummy converters connecting USB's to the newer Thunderbolt ports.
 * DH Leong wrote a [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17080 harness] for the Thrustmaster Warthog back in 2014. He implied it did not work too well - and it may not work at all on the newer AppleMacs.
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 * There are several reports of issues using PS3 Controllers with [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20659 Ubuntu].<br><br>
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 == Setting up/configuring a joystick/controller ==
 The joystick/controller configuration pages are accessed
 *once you have loaded the game and then chosen '''game options''' (above '''manage expansion packs''').
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 *All other controls are on a re-mapped keyboard - Joystick in my right hand, keyboard to the left for my left hand. </blockquote>
 === Useful Links ===
 *For mapping axes & buttons see [[Joysticks: Guide to Setting Up]]
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 *For sticky sticks see [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17068 <solved> Joystick trouble]
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 == Joystick Precision (sensitivity) Indicator ==
 This is the little green dot in the circle between the red scanner and the green roll & pitch indicators.
 The setting for which button controls ''precision mode'' will be found in the joystick/controller configuration page (see above).
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 To overcome this, "joystick precision mode" was quickly introduced. When enabled, this reduces stick sensitivity by a factor of three, so that to obtain the same degree of pitch, roll or yaw, you now have to move the stick three times as far. The upshot being that when precision mode is toggled on, much finer control is possible, as small movements of the stick would result in a movement of only 1/3 as much as in normal mode. Naturally, some skill is still required, but manual docking and long-range sniping are now practical possibilities, at least.
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 == Joystick throttle jitter handling ==
 == Improving functionality of Controller/Joystick ==

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 | align="center" width="200" height="200"|[[File:Virpil Mongoost Throttle.png|200px|thumb|<br>|'''Virpil''' Mongoost Throttle: metal]]
 |}
 == The Options ==

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 == Some Joystick threads ==
 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5429 2008-10] includes the creation of the Precision indicator
 *[http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6047 Joystick Recommendations] (2009) includes analysis of Rally Car driving, issues with CH joysticks, building cockpits, etc.