Joysticks: Guide to Setting Up - Revision history

Cholmondely: Added Logitech X56 details (but no profile yet)

2021-12-26T00:44:20Z

Added Logitech X56 details (but no profile yet)

Cholmondely: /* Thrustmaster TM4 */ Fixed typo, clarified position re software for AppleMac.

2021-12-20T23:40:12Z

‎Thrustmaster TM4: Fixed typo, clarified position re software for AppleMac.

Cholmondely: /* Use with AppleMac */ Added Search Engine Link Terms

2021-11-20T17:27:44Z

‎Use with AppleMac: Added Search Engine Link Terms

Cholmondely: /* Joysticks */ Added older Cody

2021-11-19T03:41:30Z

‎Joysticks: Added older Cody

Cholmondely: /* == Use with AppleMac */ oops

2021-11-15T19:54:44Z

‎== Use with AppleMac: oops

Cholmondely: /* Thrustmaster TM4 */ Added note on AppleMac

2021-11-15T19:54:18Z

‎Thrustmaster TM4: Added note on AppleMac

Cholmondely: /* Links */ Added a couple more

2021-08-25T02:51:41Z

‎Links: Added a couple more

Cholmondely: /* Links */ Note on jittering joysticks

2021-08-24T23:46:31Z

‎Links: Note on jittering joysticks

Cholmondely: Tagged as Help page

2021-07-12T19:00:17Z

Tagged as Help page

Cholmondely: Tweaks!

2021-07-06T00:40:34Z

Tweaks!

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	"''Axes 2 & 3 may seem counter intuitive - but they work for me. My guess is that most Commanders would have these two reversed. Also have some very nice spline curves set up as per Dizzy's Guide mentioned at the top and bottom of this page. Everything else is accessed via the keyboard controls. The Advanced Navigation Computer (OXZ) is mapped to Fast Activate 2, key = Tab. Docking Clearance (mandatory at all but Rock Hermits in my Ooniverse) is accessed via the Communications M.F.D. (OXZ). With the Communications M.F.D. active, use the '''n''' key to select the "Request Docking Clearance" option and then press '''b'''. All other keyboard commands are at their default settings.''" (Nite Owl)		"''Axes 2 & 3 may seem counter intuitive - but they work for me. My guess is that most Commanders would have these two reversed. Also have some very nice spline curves set up as per Dizzy's Guide mentioned at the top and bottom of this page. Everything else is accessed via the keyboard controls. The Advanced Navigation Computer (OXZ) is mapped to Fast Activate 2, key = Tab. Docking Clearance (mandatory at all but Rock Hermits in my Ooniverse) is accessed via the Communications M.F.D. (OXZ). With the Communications M.F.D. active, use the '''n''' key to select the "Request Docking Clearance" option and then press '''b'''. All other keyboard commands are at their default settings.''" (Nite Owl)
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		+	[[File:Logitech X56.png\|right\|320px]]
		+	=== Logitech G X56 HOTAS ===
		+	There may be issues with playing Oolite in Windows with this HOTAS, the throttle may not connect.
		+
		+	If so, you may need to (re)-install the Logitech X56 software from [https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024844133--Downloads-X56-Space-Flight-H-O-T-A-S- here]
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		+	Once that's installed you can go into the X56 "HUD" program and go to Programming. From there, select the Throttle.
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		+	You then need to create a new profile and start adding your controls to it. The Logitech manual is a little obtuse on the subject but it gets the job done. In order for Oolite to effectively recognize the throttle axis you need to set it to Band mode, which lets you assign W to the lower third of the band, S to the upper third (yes, these are reversed from expectation) and nothing to the central band.
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		+	After that the rest of the controls are pretty easy to set up.
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		+	Then you need to save and activate the profile - there's a button on the same programming screen, or you use the background program in the carat ( ^ ) menu on the Taskbar. If you're using the background program, right click on the program icon and select your saved profile.
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		+	Once activated, the software will override your default settings and Oolite will accept those commands instead of the throttle's "real" inputs. You can then "clear" the profile if you want to play a different game. (Details from [http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=281448#p281448 Arquebus 2021]).

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 *There are 13 buttons: 4 on the stick (including the trigger) and 6 on the throttle and 3 on the base of the throttle.
 *The hat switch on the stick is a regular 4-way switch.
-*The software for the TM3/4/X hotas is needed. It allows the PS button on the base of the throttle to toggle between vanilla PlayStation mode (where the empower the twist joystick z-axis and the throttle's rudder axis are disabled) and Joystick mode where everything works.
+*The software for the TM3/4/X hotas is needed. It allows the PS button on the base of the throttle to toggle between vanilla PlayStation mode (where the twist joystick z-axis and the throttle's rudder axis are disabled) and Joystick mode where everything works.
 ==== Use with AppleMac ==== <!-- Apple AppleMac Thrustmaster TFlight HOTAS_4 TM4 -->
 It seems that this is not compatible with the AppleMac, with the twist, throttle and axis on the back of the throttle not seeming functional.
-What neither Thrustmaster nor Apple can be bothered to tell you is that you need to keep the '''PS''', '''SHARE''' & '''OPTIONS''' buttons held down while you plug it into your AppleMac. The green light should then come on on your PS button, and you should find it fully functional.
+What neither Thrustmaster nor Apple can be bothered to tell you is that you need to keep the '''PS''', '''SHARE''' & '''OPTIONS''' buttons held down while you plug it into your AppleMac. The green light should then come on under your PS button, and you should find the HOTAS fully functional. This is without the Thrustmaster software being loaded.
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 *The software for the TM3/4/X hotas is needed. It allows the PS button on the base of the throttle to toggle between vanilla PlayStation mode (where the empower the twist joystick z-axis and the throttle's rudder axis are disabled) and Joystick mode where everything works.
-==== Use with AppleMac ====
+==== Use with AppleMac ==== <!-- Apple AppleMac Thrustmaster TFlight HOTAS_4 TM4 -->
 It seems that this is not compatible with the AppleMac, with the twist, throttle and axis on the back of the throttle not seeming functional.
-What neither Thrustmaster nor Apple can be bothered to tell you is that you need to keep the PS, SHARE & OPTIONS buttons held down while you plug it into your AppleMac. The green light should then come on on your PS button, and you should find it fully functional.
+What neither Thrustmaster nor Apple can be bothered to tell you is that you need to keep the '''PS''', '''SHARE''' & '''OPTIONS''' buttons held down while you plug it into your AppleMac. The green light should then come on on your PS button, and you should find it fully functional.
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 *Button 11 - Activate .oxp equipment ('''n''')
 *Button 12 - Prime .oxp equipment ('''shift-n''')
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 [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=261310#p261310 Nite Owl's] settings for the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Another veteran, like Cody, but with a more combat oriented set of joystick bindings.

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 *The software for the TM3/4/X hotas is needed. It allows the PS button on the base of the throttle to toggle between vanilla PlayStation mode (where the empower the twist joystick z-axis and the throttle's rudder axis are disabled) and Joystick mode where everything works.
-==== Use with AppleMac ==
+==== Use with AppleMac ====
 It seems that this is not compatible with the AppleMac, with the twist, throttle and axis on the back of the throttle not seeming functional.
 What neither Thrustmaster nor Apple can be bothered to tell you is that you need to keep the PS, SHARE & OPTIONS buttons held down while you plug it into your AppleMac. The green light should then come on on your PS button, and you should find it fully functional.

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	*The software for the TM3/4/X hotas is needed. It allows the PS button on the base of the throttle to toggle between vanilla PlayStation mode (where the empower the twist joystick z-axis and the throttle's rudder axis are disabled) and Joystick mode where everything works.		*The software for the TM3/4/X hotas is needed. It allows the PS button on the base of the throttle to toggle between vanilla PlayStation mode (where the empower the twist joystick z-axis and the throttle's rudder axis are disabled) and Joystick mode where everything works.

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		+	==== Use with AppleMac ==
		+	It seems that this is not compatible with the AppleMac, with the twist, throttle and axis on the back of the throttle not seeming functional.
		+	What neither Thrustmaster nor Apple can be bothered to tell you is that you need to keep the PS, SHARE & OPTIONS buttons held down while you plug it into your AppleMac. The green light should then come on on your PS button, and you should find it fully functional.

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	[[User:Cholmondely\|Cholly]]'s settings: Cholly uses this HOTAS with an Elgato [[Buttonboxes\|Streamdeck]], so the confusing missile controls are ''there'' where they can be clearly labelled and understood. Cholly is quite new to Oolite, and has no other real experience of space sims.		[[User:Cholmondely\|Cholly]]'s settings: Cholly uses this HOTAS with an Elgato [[Buttonboxes\|Streamdeck]], so the confusing missile controls are ''there'' where they can be clearly labelled and understood. Cholly is quite new to Oolite, and has no other real experience of space sims.

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 * [[Joysticks and Gamepads]] (contains instructions for adding jitter to your joystick).
 * [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20841 Joysticks]: how to configure (BB thread basis for this page).
 * [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15770 2013] thread about coding Oolite for Joysticks (Macs vs Windows/Linux).
 * [http://www.aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17857 2015] thread about problems with setting up several Windows joysticks (with Linux mentions)
 === Other advice pages ===

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	*[[How do I ...]] dock / succeed in trading / win a fight / configure my controller/joystick ''etc''		*[[How do I ...]] dock / succeed in trading / win a fight / configure my controller/joystick ''etc''

−	[[Category:Oolite]][[Category:Factual]]	+	[[Category:Oolite]][[Category:Factual]][[Category:Help pages]]

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 '''Cholly's guide to Setting up Joystick Configurations in Oolite 1.90'''
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-== Some definitions ==
+== Joysticks: Some definitions ==
+''For more details on Throttles, see Thrustmaster TM4 & CH Throttle Pro below''
 {| cellspacing="30" align="center" border="0" text-align="center"
 | align="center" width="172" height="20"|[[File:Joystick Definitions.png|300px|thumb|<br>|1. stick, 2. base, 3. trigger, 4. extra buttons, 5. 2-way switch, 6. thumbwheel axis, 7. hat switch (4-way), 8. suction cup]]
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 ::The usual two axes of a joystick (forwards ↔ backwards & left ↔ right) - '''x''' & '''y''' ''above right''
 ::Some joysticks have twist as well (clockwise ↔ anti-clockwise) - '''z''' ''above right''
-::A '''thumbwheel''' - '''6''' ''above left''
+::A '''thumbwheel''' - '''6''' ''above left'' (often used for speed in the absence of a separate throttle unit)
 ::A '''mini-joystick''' - ''not shown above'' - can look identical to the hat switch, but with very different operation - will add two more '''x''' & '''y''' axes